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Old March 27th, 2006   Ragnell is offline   #49
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Why would INS name a Czech Malvado?
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Old March 27th, 2006   raw power72 is offline   #50
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Sinestro is obviously a villainous name to english speakers. No one in the corps except Hal spoke English, whenever a GL or Guardian talks it is being translated by the ring or via Guardian Telepathy. So every other member of the corps would hear "Sinestro" and be no more alarmed than if he was named "Zapthor" (which means killer in Durlan). Hal, being more polite than smart, would have not realized Sinestro had a strange sounding name until he had learned to trust him, thereby making there be no reason for anyone to have questioned Sinestro's name.

If you meet a guy named Kuzo, do you automatically think badly of him?
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Again with the fan fic..... If I met a guy named Kuzo? How would I meet him?
As a GL I would ask the power ring what is the true meaning and history and do a back ground check.
The name Kuzo can mean many different things good and bad lets say but compared to the name of Sinestro, the name is still evil in meaning whether you are the head of the Salavation Army or a dictator in Central America.
 
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Old March 27th, 2006   raw power72 is offline   #51
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Please tell me you're kidding.
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Old March 27th, 2006   The Myst is offline   #52
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About all of this. It's just so ridiculous. Ragnell completely destroyed any argument you had yet you still twist in the wind with irrelevant arguments. The issue was never why INS named Malvado that, they just hypothetically did as a for example situation and it seems to me either you chose to ignore that on purpose, you're really dense, or this is all a joke. I mean, seriously, your arguments are just so **** hollow.
 
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Old March 27th, 2006   raw power72 is offline   #53
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About all of this. It's just so ridiculous. Ragnell completely destroyed any argument you had yet you still twist in the wind with irrelevant arguments. The issue was never why INS named Malvado that, they just hypothetically did as a for example situation and it seems to me either you chose to ignore that on purpose, you're really dense, or this is all a joke. I mean, seriously, your arguments are just so **** hollow.
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No need for insults. It's a debate on what I think is a discrepancy to others it is isn't. If you re read my post on Malvado theory posted made by Rangell I gave my answer and it is clear.
 
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Old March 27th, 2006   gothamite is offline   #54
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Ok........If you were a GL and you meet your trainer named Sinestro or an evil meaning name would you not question it? At least? Wouldn't it make you curious?
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Nope.

To keep it in the real world, if I met someone from another country whose name was "Idioto," I might think to myself "Hmm. That's an unfortunate name in English."

I wouldn't be so rude as to say anything to him about it, nor foolish enough to infer from his name that he was actually an idiot.
 
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Old March 27th, 2006   Captain Kal is offline   #55
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Granted, to our culture, Sinestro would sound like an evil name. But that only applies to our culture and related ones. Others even on our precious Earth without the same Indo-European language roots would not think Sinestro is an evil name.

It might be an example of Hal's open-mindedness that he didn't automatically think an alien name sounding 'evil' by his own cultural referents meant anything. Certainly, the Guardians, the other GLs, and his home planet Korugar didn't consider it evil in their own contexts. Hey, how about his parents? Surely they didn't give him an evil name as a harbinger of his future destiny, right?
 
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Old March 27th, 2006   Lundonj is offline   #56
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It's a debate on what I think is a discrepancy to others it is isn't. If you re read my post on Malvado theory posted made by Rangell I gave my answer and it is clear.
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So, what you're saying is, despite some clever, logical and well thought out responses to your original question, you still don't buy into a fictional character's name potentially having different meanings on different worlds?

But the fact he's a red faced alien from a world that doesn't exist is perfectly acceptable.

The reality is, the character was born as a bad guy decades ago when corny evil doer names worked fine, as long as the comic hit the deadline. And, in all honesty, no retcon is needed to make him more cool in the modern age for me to be able to believe the fictional battle between a GL and Sinestro.

I'm not seeing much of a debate, I think Ragnell nailed it for people needing some sort of fictional closure about an imaginary villain. And suddenly, I miss nitpicks about coloring and whether or not comic book U.S.A.F. uniforms are perfectly accurate.


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Old March 27th, 2006   The Myst is offline   #57
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Nope.

To keep it in the real world, if I met someone from another country whose name was "Idioto," I might think to myself "Hmm. That's an unfortunate name in English."

I wouldn't be so rude as to say anything to him about it, nor foolish enough to infer from his name that he was actually an idiot.
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I never thought of that but it would be pretty rude of Hal to say "Hey, your name is 'Sinestro'. That has evil connotations on my world. ... Uh... are you evil?"
 
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Old March 27th, 2006   raw power72 is offline   #58
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OK I don't oppose the meaning of the name on differnt worlds. It's the flashback story in ED before Sinestro, his name, went rogue that I question. There is no answer for it today. What if's and fan fiction are good answers but are not direct answers in reference to what is written in the GL mythos. Rangell example was good but it had loop holes which created more questions.
Example Abin Sur crash landed his spaceship on earth and died you know the story but why would a GL who has the power to fly through space with his/her ring need a spaceship? That was a queation that went on for many years until Alan Moore came and gave a written and illustrated reason why ABin Sur used a spaceship in GLC.
When Kyle was chosen at randomn it didn't makes sense cause we as GL fans know that the ring only picks those worthy of it. Again many years go on about how Kyle was chosen debate until Rebirth when the Guardians confirm and say "We made the right choice" somewhere in that line.
I'm not looking for a "victory" here I was just looking for a possible answer to a question but there isn't an answer.
I respect all your answers and I will remain humble in this thread without creating tension.
 
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Old March 27th, 2006   raw power72 is offline   #59
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I never thought of that but it would be pretty rude of Hal to say "Hey, your name is 'Sinestro'. That has evil connotations on my world. ... Uh... are you evil?"
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Yes it would be pretty rude to for Hal to ask but Hal already question's it from what you just stated.
 
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Old March 27th, 2006   carmine007 is offline   #60
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Maybe Sinestro is lef-handed and thats why he got that name.
 
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Old March 27th, 2006   Sk8maven is offline   #61
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Maybe Sinestro is left-handed and thats why he got that name.
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He does wear whichever ring he's wielding on his left hand. So if his name's a fancy way of saying "Lefty"....

He's also not the only left-handed Green Lantern, not as long as Alan Scott is active. (And G'Nort? Or do paws count? )

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Old March 27th, 2006   WyldeWolf is offline   #62
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And suddenly, I miss nitpicks about coloring and whether or not comic book U.S.A.F. uniforms are perfectly accurate.
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Old March 28th, 2006   Lundonj is offline   #63
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You're in luck! I was just about to post 6 pages of material proving that General Stone's ribbons are clearly drawn 0.5 inches too high above his breast pocket!
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If only you were that picky, we might have hit a few snags worthy of uniform threads (pun intended).

You had your chance Wolf-ster.

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Old March 28th, 2006   gothamite is offline   #64
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I'm not looking for a "victory" here I was just looking for a possible answer to a question but there isn't an answer.
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I don't really think there's much of a question, for what it's worth.

I think we've demonstrated here that there doesn't really need to be an "on-panel" explanation at all. It's not a hole in continuity, it's not a contradiction, it's not really anything but a linguistic quirk.

To address it in a comic book would be to blow it way out of proportion.
 
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