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Old August 15th, 2005   squirrelly bob is offline   #1
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Ok, So I was thinking about Crisis Counseling at WW:Chicago and something I asked Rucka and DiDio about whether Teen Titans, Outsiders, and other titles were created with the Infinite Crisis in mind from the get go. Rucka said something along the lines of well, look who's writing both those books (Johns and Winick), do you think that's a coincidence? It seems to be that many newer titles from the past two or three years will be tied directly into the Infinite Crisis. Besides Teen Titans and Outsiders, Firestorm, Manhunter, Breach, and Supergirl. Doom Patrol was new too but I don't think it's going to be that crucial to the Infinite Crisis. Breach's last issue is in November but I think he'll be a lead in to the Infinite Crisis stuff since he's been watched by the Society like Firestorm, Manhunter, and Supergirl have been as well. OK well back to my crackpot theory of this whole things been planned and orchestrated for the past two years or so. Graduation Day was a given that it was a set up for something bigger. I mean Donna Troy is back, Lilith might be as well. Just look at the old JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice storyline. Despero and Johnny Sorrow attacked the wizard Shazam and freed the Seven Deadly Sins of Man from the Rock of Eternity to attack members of the JLA and JSA. Despero was even disguised in Lex Luthor's body. It seems too convenient for all of these guys to be showing up again now. Despero is back in JLA and he's revealed to be the one who has un-mindwiped the Secret Society of Supervillians. In the November cover of Outsiders, Katana is shown against the Seven Deadly Sins of Man who are somehow free from the Rock of Eternity. Wait a second, I'll take a guess that the events of Day of Vengeance will break the chains of the Rock of Eternity and we will see not only the Seven Deadly Sins of Man back but also Johnny Sorrow and the deadly MORDRU. But wait in the November solicit for JSA it says that Mordru has returned hmmmm. Johnny Sorrow will be next I tell ya. Look at the Teen Titans' battles since their new series started. Deathstroke, Brother Blood II, that ZooKeeper guy, Dr. Light, Luthor and Brainiac. Brother Blood was magically imprisoned in an alternate dimension. But last issue of TT showed him preparing to return with Lilith with him. Could Trigon be far behind? Outsiders have had some battles as well. They stopped the Joker from killing Lex Luthor, fought the original Brother Blood which resulted in the new young Brother Blood II, fought the demon Sabbac, the Fearsome Five, the child slavery ring, and Brainiac 8 herself. Judging from the fallout awaiting from Day of Vengeance, I will say that Sabbac could be back anytime soon and I'm 100% sure that Sivana and the Fearsome Five will return as well. Man this Infinite Crisis thing is gonna suck for the Superheroes. They'll be up against the OMACs, the Society, Onimar Synn, AND the returning formerly magically imprisoned supervillians like Brother Blood and Mordru who are reaaaaaaaly angry and ready for some revenge. Not to mention their alliances are breaking apart after Identity Crisis, Sacrifice, and Crisis of Conscience. I hear all this talk of the Anti-Monitor returning, but you know what I think the story is reaching Crisis proportions already. The return of the Anti-Monitor would be just too much to handle wouldn't it, although didn't they bring back the Psycho Pirate? I haven't even considered the ramifications of the powerful women in the DCU going crazy. I mean we have Wonder Woman, Donna Troy, Wonder Girl, Supergirl, Power Girl, Oracle, and Batgirl put through the most emotionally toiling days of their life lately. I mean WW already proved she can kick Clark's ass and snap a guy's neck. Donna Troy is like the warrior goddess now. Wonder Girl is discovering her powers when she goes into rage. Supergirl and Power Girl can't even be in the same vicinity without killing each other it seems. Oracle is infected with some sort of Brainiac/OMAC virus and Batgirl is stumbling upon the new League of Assasins and Lazarus Pit projects all while trying to find out who the heck her mom is. She's probably the most lethal human superhero in the DCU too besides, I almost forgot Kate Spencer the latest Manhunter. Hell, there's the new Justice League right there. The men wouldn't stand a chance against them. Diana, Donna, Cassie, Kara, Karen, Barbara, Cassandra, and Kate. Let's not forget Mia and Dinah. Oh and wait there's also Jade who has had a rough year with the Outsiders as well. There's my theory: the Justice League will be all women. Doubt it will happen, but hey if it did, they would kick some butt wouldn't they. There's just no Flash. But wait isn't a Crisis coming anyways?!
 
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Old August 15th, 2005   Hunter is offline   #2
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Dude... nice theory... but **** man.. use some spaces and indent....wow.... must take a tylenol....
 
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Dude... nice theory... but **** man.. use some spaces and indent....wow.... must take a tylenol....
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so you are saying that crisis is all about making the Justice League an all female team?
 
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so you are saying that crisis is all about making the Justice League an all female team?
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um, yeah my thoughts exactly.
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Old August 15th, 2005   red lantern is offline   #8
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Well, according to that theory, I shouldn't have bothered reading the outsiders. It's johns writing infinite, not winick, right?

Then again, who's writing batman?

Actually, I don't know if it's really revealing anything.

If you want to look at trends, look at how themes from previous "events" have reared their proverbial head in the direction of the latest crisis. I think if you tie them together, to the events going on right now, you'd probably have something close to what's going to happen.

And yet I still think there's a lot that johns is just snickering about as he reads this stuff.

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I'm just thinking he needs more of these

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I'm just thinking he needs more of these

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lots more of them
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Ok, So I was thinking about Crisis Counseling at WW:Chicago and something I asked Rucka and DiDio about whether Teen Titans, Outsiders, and other titles were created with the Infinite Crisis in mind from the get go. Rucka said something along the lines of well, look who's writing both those books (Johns and Winick), do you think that's a coincidence? It seems to be that many newer titles from the past two or three years will be tied directly into the Infinite Crisis. Besides Teen Titans and Outsiders, Firestorm, Manhunter, Breach, and Supergirl. Doom Patrol was new too but I don't think it's going to be that crucial to the Infinite Crisis. Breach's last issue is in November but I think he'll be a lead in to the Infinite Crisis stuff since he's been watched by the Society like Firestorm, Manhunter, and Supergirl have been as well. OK well back to my crackpot theory of this whole things been planned and orchestrated for the past two years or so. Graduation Day was a given that it was a set up for something bigger. I mean Donna Troy is back, Lilith might be as well. Just look at the old JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice storyline. Despero and Johnny Sorrow attacked the wizard Shazam and freed the Seven Deadly Sins of Man from the Rock of Eternity to attack members of the JLA and JSA. Despero was even disguised in Lex Luthor's body. It seems too convenient for all of these guys to be showing up again now. Despero is back in JLA and he's revealed to be the one who has un-mindwiped the Secret Society of Supervillians. In the November cover of Outsiders, Katana is shown against the Seven Deadly Sins of Man who are somehow free from the Rock of Eternity. Wait a second, I'll take a guess that the events of Day of Vengeance will break the chains of the Rock of Eternity and we will see not only the Seven Deadly Sins of Man back but also Johnny Sorrow and the deadly MORDRU. But wait in the November solicit for JSA it says that Mordru has returned hmmmm. Johnny Sorrow will be next I tell ya. Look at the Teen Titans' battles since their new series started. Deathstroke, Brother Blood II, that ZooKeeper guy, Dr. Light, Luthor and Brainiac. Brother Blood was magically imprisoned in an alternate dimension. But last issue of TT showed him preparing to return with Lilith with him. Could Trigon be far behind? Outsiders have had some battles as well. They stopped the Joker from killing Lex Luthor, fought the original Brother Blood which resulted in the new young Brother Blood II, fought the demon Sabbac, the Fearsome Five, the child slavery ring, and Brainiac 8 herself. Judging from the fallout awaiting from Day of Vengeance, I will say that Sabbac could be back anytime soon and I'm 100% sure that Sivana and the Fearsome Five will return as well. Man this Infinite Crisis thing is gonna suck for the Superheroes. They'll be up against the OMACs, the Society, Onimar Synn, AND the returning formerly magically imprisoned supervillians like Brother Blood and Mordru who are reaaaaaaaly angry and ready for some revenge. Not to mention their alliances are breaking apart after Identity Crisis, Sacrifice, and Crisis of Conscience. I hear all this talk of the Anti-Monitor returning, but you know what I think the story is reaching Crisis proportions already. The return of the Anti-Monitor would be just too much to handle wouldn't it, although didn't they bring back the Psycho Pirate? I haven't even considered the ramifications of the powerful women in the DCU going crazy. I mean we have Wonder Woman, Donna Troy, Wonder Girl, Supergirl, Power Girl, Oracle, and Batgirl put through the most emotionally toiling days of their life lately. I mean WW already proved she can kick Clark's ass and snap a guy's neck. Donna Troy is like the warrior goddess now. Wonder Girl is discovering her powers when she goes into rage. Supergirl and Power Girl can't even be in the same vicinity without killing each other it seems. Oracle is infected with some sort of Brainiac/OMAC virus and Batgirl is stumbling upon the new League of Assasins and Lazarus Pit projects all while trying to find out who the heck her mom is. She's probably the most lethal human superhero in the DCU too besides, I almost forgot Kate Spencer the latest Manhunter. Hell, there's the new Justice League right there. The men wouldn't stand a chance against them. Diana, Donna, Cassie, Kara, Karen, Barbara, Cassandra, and Kate. Let's not forget Mia and Dinah. Oh and wait there's also Jade who has had a rough year with the Outsiders as well. There's my theory: the Justice League will be all women. Doubt it will happen, but hey if it did, they would kick some butt wouldn't they. There's just no Flash. But wait isn't a Crisis coming anyways?!
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Ok, So I was thinking about Crisis Counseling at WW:Chicago and something I asked Rucka and DiDio about whether Teen Titans, Outsiders, and other titles were created with the Infinite Crisis in mind from the get go. Rucka said something along the lines of well, look who's writing both those books (Johns and Winick), do you think that's a coincidence? It seems to be that many newer titles from the past two or three years will be tied directly into the Infinite Crisis. Besides Teen Titans and Outsiders, Firestorm, Manhunter, Breach, and Supergirl. Doom Patrol was new too but I don't think it's going to be that crucial to the Infinite Crisis. Breach's last issue is in November but I think he'll be a lead in to the Infinite Crisis stuff since he's been watched by the Society like Firestorm, Manhunter, and Supergirl have been as well.

OK well back to my crackpot theory of this whole things been planned and orchestrated for the past two years or so. Graduation Day was a given that it was a set up for something bigger. I mean Donna Troy is back, Lilith might be as well. Just look at the old JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice storyline. Despero and Johnny Sorrow attacked the wizard Shazam and freed the Seven Deadly Sins of Man from the Rock of Eternity to attack members of the JLA and JSA. Despero was even disguised in Lex Luthor's body. It seems too convenient for all of these guys to be showing up again now.

Despero is back in JLA and he's revealed to be the one who has un-mindwiped the Secret Society of Supervillians. In the November cover of Outsiders, Katana is shown against the Seven Deadly Sins of Man who are somehow free from the Rock of Eternity. Wait a second, I'll take a guess that the events of Day of Vengeance will break the chains of the Rock of Eternity and we will see not only the Seven Deadly Sins of Man back but also Johnny Sorrow and the deadly MORDRU. But wait in the November solicit for JSA it says that Mordru has returned hmmmm. Johnny Sorrow will be next I tell ya.

Look at the Teen Titans' battles since their new series started. Deathstroke, Brother Blood II, that ZooKeeper guy, Dr. Light, Luthor and Brainiac. Brother Blood was magically imprisoned in an alternate dimension. But last issue of TT showed him preparing to return with Lilith with him. Could Trigon be far behind? Outsiders have had some battles as well. They stopped the Joker from killing Lex Luthor, fought the original Brother Blood which resulted in the new young Brother Blood II, fought the demon Sabbac, the Fearsome Five, the child slavery ring, and Brainiac 8 herself. Judging from the fallout awaiting from Day of Vengeance, I will say that Sabbac could be back anytime soon and I'm 100% sure that Sivana and the Fearsome Five will return as well.

Man, this Infinite Crisis thing is gonna suck for the Superheroes. They'll be up against the OMACs, the Society, Onimar Synn, AND the returning formerly magically imprisoned supervillians like Brother Blood and Mordru who are reaaaaaaaly angry and ready for some revenge. Not to mention their alliances are breaking apart after Identity Crisis, Sacrifice, and Crisis of Conscience.

I hear all this talk of the Anti-Monitor returning, but you know what I think the story is reaching Crisis proportions already. The return of the Anti-Monitor would be just too much to handle wouldn't it, although didn't they bring back the Psycho Pirate? I haven't even considered the ramifications of the powerful women in the DCU going crazy.

I mean we have Wonder Woman, Donna Troy, Wonder Girl, Supergirl, Power Girl, Oracle, and Batgirl put through the most emotionally toiling days of their life lately. I mean WW already proved she can kick Clark's ass and snap a guy's neck. Donna Troy is like the warrior goddess now. Wonder Girl is discovering her powers when she goes into rage. Supergirl and Power Girl can't even be in the same vicinity without killing each other it seems. Oracle is infected with some sort of Brainiac/OMAC virus and Batgirl is stumbling upon the new League of Assasins and Lazarus Pit projects all while trying to find out who the heck her mom is. She's probably the most lethal human superhero in the DCU too besides, I almost forgot Kate Spencer the latest Manhunter.

Hell, there's the new Justice League right there. The men wouldn't stand a chance against them. Diana, Donna, Cassie, Kara, Karen, Barbara, Cassandra, and Kate. Let's not forget Mia and Dinah. Oh and wait there's also Jade who has had a rough year with the Outsiders as well. There's my theory: the Justice League will be all women. Doubt it will happen, but hey if it did, they would kick some butt wouldn't they. There's just no Flash. But wait isn't a Crisis coming anyways?!
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Old August 16th, 2005   Brian LaBelle is offline   #13
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Trigon is coming back.

Brother Blood will bring him back.

He'll be a major bad guy in Crisis 2!

 
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Old August 16th, 2005   Mr Prince is offline   #14
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Ow. Paragraphs, please!

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Old August 16th, 2005   Danny Mullins is offline   #15
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Trigon is coming back.

Brother Blood will bring him back.

He'll be a major bad guy in Crisis 2!

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Trigon should be a major DCU villain.

Anyone remember in NTT (vol 2) Ish 4-5, when they showed the Justice League being tortured by Trigon? I'd love to see what their nightmare doopplegangers were like.
 
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