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Old February 23rd, 2016   Jorge Galvan is offline   #1
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Default Deadpool: two sides of the coin

Never read the book and obviously never got into the character. Only real knowledge on him was always PREVIEWS ads and articles in Wizard/ Comic buyers guide. etcetc...


SO I went to see the film yesterday, its a MARVEL flick, right, showing my support. I had heard some reviews, saying it's violent, and I had seen the trailer for it. okay...

And I went and watched it and well, having grown up in the 80's when TROMA was king, I was used to gratuitous (comedic) Violence and so on of that nature. and honestly that isn't what really bothered me. Neither the sexual situations on both sides of the coin!


But what did bother me was that there were KIDS there in the cinema. and some of em where with their PARENTS! Now, I am the most easiest going guy, I am into a lot of things and somehow this was bothering me.


I have been reading Marvel comics since 1969 and I know im OLD, and I don't want people to think im turning into some old fuddy-duddy! but, if I WERE a kid today, I would NOT WANT my parents (or my friends for that matter) and let me restate that, KID (5-12 years old) take me to see this film!

In ALL Honesty, I do NOT know HOW this film got an "R" rating, when it should have gotten a single "X" rating.

The Language ALONE justifies the X rating, and then when you add the sexual situations in the film. How is a "kid" gonna "DIGEST" the scene with whatshername using a S***P-on! And how awkward is it when YOUR PARENTS ARE THERE WATCHING IT WITH YOU!!!!!!!


I learned my sex on the streets, I have no problem with that, I grew up in an era where there was no Sexual education, (well there was, but it was all that scientific BS!) Can you imagine getting TRAUMATIZED.

And then there is the VIOLENCE! As I said, I grew up with TROMA, so im used to this, but in this age of "Ultra-Violence" (thank you Mr. Tarantino!) (sic). mixing all this up and then just ramming it down a kid's throat, why wouldn't a parent grab there kid and haul ass outta there???? I would if I had a kid!

I did enjoy COLOSSUS, he was very well done and they NAILED his character, perfectly. Nega-Sonic Warhead, interesting, I wonder if Dave Wyndorff will get a ROYALTY cheque??


so if everyone one in attendance was over 17, then FINE, no problem, enjoy the film. But they were not and I seem to have a problem with that and I want to BLAME SOMEONE, do I blame MARVEL for making this film? Do I blame the Cinema for letting the kids in? Do I blame the Parents for bringing their kids and then NOT taking them out and leaving?


I do not know. I am conflicted. and yet I am still upset even more...


Ya know there is killing everyday and it sucks and its sad and there is no need for it. Deadpool and the punisher are 2 characters known for this, so be it. but add in the sex, Ultra-violence and general disregard for human life.

WTF???



the general disregard of life in this case was the scene where he is going to the final battle and tells the cabbie he befriended that it's OKAY to kill someone! and then when Nega-Sonic pounds those two henchmen, bloody hell! Colossus the voice of reason is ignored and the thing about this is he DID NOT ARREST DP! He let him go. If that were Magneto/Apocalypse/Dr Doom and they blew someone away, would it be different??? No.


Heroes are supposed to stand for something, fine, let DP go and kill whoever, but Colossus SHOULD have stopped or taken him in, and then he should have reprimanded NSWH not to KILL! Hero's don't do that.


And our pal Stan (Lee), what does he think of all this?

so that's it, that's my VENT. say what you will.




What a lousy recipe for Humanitary Stew...


Oh yeah... one other thing


**** Liefield.
 
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Old February 23rd, 2016   starks is offline   #2
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In this instance, blame the parents first, then the cinema as they shouldn't allow kids in for an R rated movie. But normally they let them in regardless for R movies, even without the parent. Look how these horror movies perform. Most are rated R, but a lot of that audience are under 18.

It's funny, I was at my LCS right after the movie. I was talking about it with the owner. A guy in there joined us in our conversation & he said he forgot it was rated R and brought his daughter (who was 10). And then he realized it during the movie & couldn't believe he made the mistake.

I didn't ask him if he left at that moment when he came to that realization, because I had a feeling that they stayed.

Maybe in his exuberance for the character, he just wasn't thinking. I don't know.

I wouldn't bring my nephews to it, even though they wanted to see it. Not concerned about the violence, since video games are just as violent, or even more so. The language would've been a little bit of a concern, but I also know if they hear anything like that, they'd never repeat it. It would've been the nudity for me that would've been the no-go.

Which is a bit funny if you were European. Their cinema standards are different than the U.S.'s.
 
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Old February 24th, 2016   Amentep is offline   #3
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In this instance, blame the parents first, then the cinema as they shouldn't allow kids in for an R rated movie. But normally they let them in regardless for R movies, even without the parent. Look how these horror movies perform. Most are rated R, but a lot of that audience are under 18.
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The only rating that forbids underage viewers in the US is the NC-17 rating (formerly the "X" rating - but that rating was abandoned because of the "XXX" designation adopted by the porn industry).

An R is only restrictive if the kid is not accompanied by an adult. That said I think some cinemas only care that an adult bought the tickets and don't bother with whether the adult actually accompanies them into the cinema.
 
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Old February 24th, 2016   starks is offline   #4
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And how would they know if the adult bought the ticket? Are you saying the adult goes up to the window, purchases the ticket, hands off the ticket, & then walks out of the theater?
 
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Old February 24th, 2016   Jorge Galvan is offline   #5
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And how would they know if the adult bought the ticket? Are you saying the adult goes up to the window, purchases the ticket, hands off the ticket, & then walks out of the theater?
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That wouldn't surprise me in this day and age, same deal/concept as getting an adult to buy BEER/Booze for youngsters.

and even NC-17 is a joke rating, this film is a definitive X


If I closed my eyes and just listened to some of the dialogue I would think, this is a porn!
 
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Old February 25th, 2016   starks is offline   #6
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Yeah, Ryan Reynolds was naked more than any actor/actress I've seen in a movie in a long time.
 
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I agree with Starks. The movie is what it is. In this instance, blame the parents and the cinemas for kid's watching the movie. It's not the movie's fault parents have a lapse in judgement when it comes to bringing their kids to this movie. Especially when it's plastered everywhere that it's rated R. I loved Deadpool since almost the beginning. And this is as close to a perfect Deadpool movie as there is going to be. But knowing the character, and importantly, knowing the rating, I would not let a child watch this
 
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And how would they know if the adult bought the ticket? Are you saying the adult goes up to the window, purchases the ticket, hands off the ticket, & then walks out of the theater?
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I've seen adults buy tickets for other movies, accompany the minor in but split to different theaters in a multiplex.
 
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I took my 12 year old son and 14 year old daughter to see it. They know that there are appropriate times and places for strong language, and the bad language in the movie didn't bother them a bit. The nudity did bother them, and any time there was anything uncomfortable or embarassing for them to see, they just put their head down or averted their eyes for a few seconds.

I saw a buddy of mine was there with his 11 year old daughter, and I know that she is a very immature 11 year old. He was constantly putting his hand over her yes, and telling her not to look. She definitely shouldn't have been there, but that's up to each parent to decide for their children.
 
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As an addendum to this, I noticed at the theater I went to over the weekend, it specifically said that their policy was that Parents/Guardians/Adults buying R-rated tickets for underage viewers had to also buy a ticket AND stay in the same theater as the underage viewer. Not sure how they actually enforce that, but that sign wasn't their prior to DEADPOOL being released.
 
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I took my 12 year old son and 14 year old daughter to see it. They know that there are appropriate times and places for strong language, and the bad language in the movie didn't bother them a bit. The nudity did bother them, and any time there was anything uncomfortable or embarassing for them to see, they just put their head down or averted their eyes for a few seconds.

I saw a buddy of mine was there with his 11 year old daughter, and I know that she is a very immature 11 year old. He was constantly putting his hand over her yes, and telling her not to look. She definitely shouldn't have been there, but that's up to each parent to decide for their children.
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Let me ask you, did you regret taking them?

Or, if you saw the movie beforehand on your own & saw what was in it, would you still have taken them to see it?
 
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I took my 12 year old son and 14 year old daughter to see it. They know that there are appropriate times and places for strong language, and the bad language in the movie didn't bother them a bit. The nudity did bother them, and any time there was anything uncomfortable or embarassing for them to see, they just put their head down or averted their eyes for a few seconds.

I saw a buddy of mine was there with his 11 year old daughter, and I know that she is a very immature 11 year old. He was constantly putting his hand over her yes, and telling her not to look. She definitely shouldn't have been there, but that's up to each parent to decide for their children.
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How did YOU feel as you sat there with them, and how did YOU feel as you all left the cinema and went home. Did you TALK about it? Was there silence? Did you feel the need to address any issues?

I had some coworkers tell me about almost the same situation, one told me he WAS gonna take his son, but his son came up to him and told him, "Dad, I can't go see Deadpool with you." He asked him why not? "Dad, my friends went to see it and told me about it."


SO my pal went to see it by himself, but before he did he told his son, "If I think it's okay for you to see it, I will take you later."So he went saw it and then told his son, "I think we will wait until this comes out on dvd and then, we can FASTFORWARD, some of the scenes."


Another pal, told me that he flat out refused to take his son, because of what he has heard.

I don't know, I hope I am NOT getting tool "old"and turning into Sarah Palin!



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