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Old November 18th, 2009   Athyns is offline   #1
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It's mentioned in the solicits that Blackest Night: Wonder Woman will change the character and this story will have repercussions. But will this story really have effects through the WW regular title or just for the duration of the Blackest Night series?

Either way I'm still getting this series: you + WW = bliss! I've missed your take on Diana and am looking forward to this mini.

I'm just curious as to how much impact this will have on Diana in her own title and throughout the DCU. Or were the solicits just good marketing.

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Old November 18th, 2009   Rucka is offline   #2
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Honestly - in my opinion - it's just DC's marketing machine doing it's thing very well. I think, personally, that it's a significant story, but I am *not* the custodian of Diana at this time, so to speak -- that job rests in Gail's capable hands.

That said, Nicola's art is stunning, and we're both having WAY too much fun with this story.
 
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Old November 24th, 2009   Athyns is offline   #3
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Hey, works for me. Good hooks to get potential readers. Me, all I needed to see was your name as writer.

If you and Nicola are having a blast, then this mini is going to be a great ride!

Can't wait!
 
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Old November 25th, 2009   Danny Perkins is offline   #4
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Honestly - in my opinion - it's just DC's marketing machine doing it's thing very well. I think, personally, that it's a significant story, but I am *not* the custodian of Diana at this time, so to speak -- that job rests in Gail's capable hands.

That said, Nicola's art is stunning, and we're both having WAY too much fun with this story.
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Clearly I just don't follow enough comics news right now. I had no idea about this and that Question thing came out of nowhere as well.

Any chance we can get an update on what you are working on (this is public knowledge of course).

Or if any members know go ahead and make a list.

I just can't keep up with solicits and I really don't want to miss anything (Like I already did with Eric's stuff).
 
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Old December 1st, 2009   Scotty_Quick is offline   #5
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PREVIEW!

This is my absolute dream team for Wonder Woman. It's been so long since Diana's seemed pitch-perfect ... man, I miss Rucka's run already.

Write Diana more, Greg!
 
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Old December 3rd, 2009   hoyatables is offline   #6
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Just finished it -- excellent and horrifying tale. I drive by Arlington Cemetery every day and live about a mile south of it. I will not sleep at night tonight. Thanks, Greg.
 
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Jason sounds like he can post his own thoughts wherever he wishes. Feel free to post YOUR thoughts on the matter.

Me, it was a blast reading Diana via Greg again. But I thought the issue was a little thin, unfortunately. It read as a one off fill-in tale with no real, compelling connetcive tissue to say "tune in next month!" Maybe with BN, there's enough there, knowing what happens to Diana, but it didn't translate even on that level. And of course, by itself, the story just ends and we're never really given a set up of story or mood to lead us into the confrontation with Max.

Considering it was Greg's "return" to a character that he writes so well and perfectly, I suppose I was expecting more.

No harm, no foul. Just my perception. ;-)

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Jason sounds like he can post his own thoughts wherever he wishes. Feel free to post YOUR thoughts on the matter.

Me, it was a blast reading Diana via Greg again. But I thought the issue was a little thin, unfortunately. It read as a one off fill-in tale with no real, compelling connetcive tissue to say "tune in next month!" Maybe with BN, there's enough there, knowing what happens to Diana, but it didn't translate even on that level. And of course, by itself, the story just ends and we're never really given a set up of story or mood to lead us into the confrontation with Max.

Considering it was Greg's "return" to a character that he writes so well and perfectly, I suppose I was expecting more.

No harm, no foul. Just my perception. ;-)

Also, my friend Egon72 from the Ghostbusters forum had a few thoughts that I shall reprint here...BZZZZZ (end transmission)
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What you said was true, while Blackest Night: Flash set up the Rogues' involvement outside the main event, and will eventually explain how Reverse-Flash came back to life, and how the new continuity changed Barry's life.

For me, I was a bit put off by how Diana managed to dispatch the Black Lanterns with her lasso. Personally, I'm no major fan of Wonder Woman or Superman, they are just...too perfect, as this issue illustrated precisely with Diana. It's kinda ironic though: here, her lasso of truth can disintegrate the Black Lanterns (but I never heard a connection severed, as Max Lord showed), but by time of Blackest Night 5, she and the lasso SPOILER. Highlight below text to read
become servant of Nekron when Diana becomes a Black Lantern

. It seems in that scenario, the truth was Death.

She was also too preachy with her words. "Love is light"? She seems to boast confidence in her abilities (why not, she's one of DCU's "Big Three"). Out of the three of them, I hold the most respect for Batman; he's at least human, with human flaws, unlike the Amazon Princess and the Last Son of Krypton. I'm glad people like Mera and Ray are getting the chance to shine, since they bring a more...human side to stories, unlike those that portray Superman as basically the Second Coming (Final Crisis ending anyone?), or something like that.

Besides, with that has recently happened in Blackest Night 5, I wouldn't be surprised if more heads began to roll on the good guys side (you don't do that, and have no one die.)
 
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I was thinking about this as I read BN: Wonder Woman. Not out of the same feelings, rather, I thought ... wow ... Black Lanterns ... you're really going to dishonor the dead of Arlington by using their bodies as tools against Wonder Woman?

I think the issue is subverted. I think Greg was indicating that Diana feels nothing but love for those men and women, and the enemy was trying to use her love for them against her - and she didn't let him, EXACTLY for the reasons of defending the honor of those fallen soldiers. She ultimately used the light of truth to cremate them - the power of "truth" exposing the "lie" of their being "back to life". They are not back to life ... they are just zombie puppets. And Diana clearly plans to fly to Coast City and beat the hell out of whoever is responsible for dishonoring them.

I thought again, of other instances where Arlington is used as a means of a super-villain "going too far".

In G.I. Joe # 22 (Marvel: "Like Chimney Sweepers Come To Dust") the Joes are at Arlington, laying their commanding officer, General Flagg to rest after he was murdered in an escape by Major Bludd.

As the thirteen Joes are gathered along with the Honor Guard, and Hawk says a few words ... Cobra Commander sends an A10 to strafe and kill the Joes. The more honorable Destro makes a note of the distasteful nature of the attack (Years later, he pays his respects to the "fallen Joe memorial" there). Luckily for the Joes, this is the issue where Duke and Roadblock join the roster, and they blow the plane out of the sky with heavy machine gun fire.

But clearly, the villains attacking Arlington is being used in similar fashion to what we've seen in Blackest Night - it's the enemy crossing a major line. And who wrote this issue? Former U.S. Army EOD specialist and later comic legend Larry Hama, who served in Vietnam.

The TRUE "Death" ... whether it be Neil Gaiman's Death of the Endless, or whatever ... would never disrespect the fallen dead, especially those who've earned their long sleep.

This proves the point that Nekron is some sort of aberration. He's not the force of closure and honor we all associate with Death. He's a walking blasphemy. And here's hoping the souls of those honored fallen all gang up and kick the **** out of him before this is over. Or tacitly approve of Green Lantern and Flash doing so.

As for DC and Greg using Arlington to evoke those images and feelings?

Every single soldier lying in long, honored rest in Arlington died to protect our 1st Ammendment rights. Boycotting DC conflicts directly with the very meaning of their giving their lives in the defense of the Constitution.
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Really? I've never read G.I Joe myself, so I wouldn't know. A veteran himself wrote it? I guess I should be a bit more soft on this issue. That's why I want the above posts I made to be deleted. Still, resurrecting the dead is crossing the line, even if some accuse the author did it.

As for Nekron, who knows who he is. I don't think that DC is necessarily being allowed to use Vertigo at the moment, so that means, technically, Nekron IS DC's version of Death. When the Light came, the darkness also claimed sentience to keep its hold on the Universe, by causing death in the Universe, as it should be. However, it seems that the Guardians' immortality goes against the natural order, and all the successful attempts of resurrection (which he allowed), and now seeks to eradicate it, so the darkness can be at true peace.
 
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Really? I've never read G.I Joe myself, so I wouldn't know. A veteran himself wrote it? I guess I should be a bit more soft on this issue. That's why I want the above posts I made to be deleted. Still, resurrecting the dead is crossing the line, even if some accuse the author did it.

As for Nekron, who knows who he is. I don't think that DC is necessarily being allowed to use Vertigo at the moment, so that means, technically, Nekron IS DC's version of Death. When the Light came, the darkness also claimed sentience to keep its hold on the Universe, by causing death in the Universe, as it should be. However, it seems that the Guardians' immortality goes against the natural order, and all the successful attempts of resurrection (which he allowed), and now seeks to eradicate it, so the darkness can be at true peace.
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Whether he's their Death or not ... he's certainly not acting in the usual ... "River Styx" ... Psychopomp (spirit guide) style we're used to death doing, obviously opting instead on the whole ... every bad fear we have about death coming true style ... of doing things.

I think it's all revenge for being the first sentient to die in the Universe. Seems like he might've been alive before the Light of Creation, lived through it, and the Guardians might've bound and executed him or something. Or else he IS a Maltusian, like them ... the first to die ...

Hard to say.
 
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That could be possible, and/or the Guardians allowed Krona to see the beginning, and banished him afterwards, since seeing it gave them immortality.
 
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Old December 4th, 2009   James Melanson is offline   #13
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Absolutely wonderful- I just couldn't be happier. as I said elsewhere, it was like visiting with an old friend who I hadn't seen in a while. Thank you so much Greg, you and Nicola knocked it out of the park!

(And I should mention that reviews, and responses by readers on other message boards, are overwhelmingly positive!)
 
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Old December 5th, 2009   Athyns is offline   #14
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Great issue! Greg, I have definitely missed your take on Diana and it was a joy to read her again. Her mannerisms, her confidence and compassion are what makes her special and you once again nailed it.

Where this seemed like a done in one story, I'm looking forward to the next two issues to see where this takes Diana and how this ties in with the developments of BN.

Nicola's art was beautiful and I would love to see the two of you do more with Diana after this mini.

Thanks for the adventure!

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Nicola's art is simply beautiful. Wow and wow and wow.

Greg---- Great start to this mini! Thoroughly enjoyed it!
 
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Ehhh.

I thought Diana's opening monologue was a bit pretentious and over written, and the use of her lasso just made me go WTF? I also found it odd that "love" played such a big role, considering that there is a whole Corps devoted to said emotion. But the art was pretty.
 
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