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Old May 18th, 2008   4PointOh is offline   #1
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Default [Film] Marvel's universal approach makes it a world apart from DC

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Old May 18th, 2008   Kiryu is offline   #2
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To be fair, Marvel has a huge advantage over DC when it comes to this. They have an in-house studio now, which lets them keep control over the film versions of the characters and do what they please with them. They're also(so far) only putting out Superhero flicks. They can also license out to other studios for distribution while retaining ownership of the characters, letting them spread it out across multiple distributing studios.

WB on the other hand can't throw out 3-4 $150million+ superhero flicks every year. Their film division has to put forth a more varied amount of material then Marvel making it much harder to set up a universe like that in a short amount of time without making a team movie(and from what I heard about JLA when it was in the works, it was going to be bad, real bad).

I'll wait to see how Hulk and Iron Man 2 are before I start caring about a shared universe. From the trouble between Norton and Marvel over the Hulk's direction he may not come back for a sequel, making a Tony Stark cameo in Hulk a bit pointless.

I do think WB could do a bit more with the DC properties it owns, I dug Superman Returns a lot but they haven't been able to make a flick as good as the 89 Batman and even Batman Returns yet.

ADDED: A new reporter in Superman Returns mentions a Superman sighting in Gotham City.
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Old May 19th, 2008   Argent is offline   #3
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The difference is that DC is owned by a Media conglomerate instead of the other way around. And what is really sad is that it would seem that the TW Exec in charge of developing DC properties is a true idiot.
 
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Old May 19th, 2008   ADGood is offline   #4
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I love the fact that all it takes is one ten-second cameo by Sam Jackson, and, "Marvel wins! They have a universe!" It was a fun extra. And it'll be great if it pans out into something. But, personally, I'm just as content to wait until something actually happens before drawing definitive conclusions about whether it was a success.
 
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I love the fact that all it takes is one ten-second cameo by Sam Jackson, and, "Marvel wins! They have a universe!" It was a fun extra. And it'll be great if it pans out into something. But, personally, I'm just as content to wait until something actually happens before drawing definitive conclusions about whether it was a success.
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Yeah i see alot of people who seem to think that this whole shared universe thing is somehow part of Iron Man's success. I mean does anyone who doesn't read comics really care that Nick Fury showed up in a couple second clip that wasn't even in the main part of the movie but buried away at the end of the credits?.
 
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I love the fact that all it takes is one ten-second cameo by Sam Jackson, and, "Marvel wins! They have a universe!" It was a fun extra. And it'll be great if it pans out into something. But, personally, I'm just as content to wait until something actually happens before drawing definitive conclusions about whether it was a success.
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Exactly.

I'd also like to point out that, in many ways, the most direct way to make a superhero work on film is to focus on THAT hero, and don't worry about how he/she ties into the "tapestry" of the shared comic book universe.

Jon Favreau and his team created a very compelling universe....for Iron Man. A high-tech world that's easy to fit SHIELD, AIM, even MODOK into...but now word's come down from Corporate that Thor, a Norse frellin' God, must be introduced in Iron Man 2.

And I still think that Downey, being only contracted for 2 movies (See the EW article:http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20198228_2,00.html), is gonna be a bit expensive when it comes time to do The Avengers.

Plus, they've gotta write these other movies, and find people to direct them who understand the material....

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Downey's only contracted for two movies? But doesn't that mean that they pretty much have to do the whole, "drunk Tony gets an intervention by way of War Machine's fists," plotline sometime in the next flick?
 
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Downey's only contracted for two movies? But doesn't that mean that they pretty much have to do the whole, "drunk Tony gets an intervention by way of War Machine's fists," plotline sometime in the next flick?
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Yep.

AND Thor.

AND the Mandarian. (Or more of the "Ten Rings" Organization...Which was an excellent re-working of the Mandarian into a less "mystical" form...fitting with the style and feel of the movie.)

AND whatever else Favreau and team want to explore with the character.

AND all the other stuff Marvel Productions will force feed the creative team.
(Think Spider-Man 3, or X-Men 3)

Here's an idea...hire filmmakers who are excited by, and understand, the material...and let them make the movie.
 
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I love the fact that all it takes is one ten-second cameo by Sam Jackson, and, "Marvel wins! They have a universe!" It was a fun extra. And it'll be great if it pans out into something. But, personally, I'm just as content to wait until something actually happens before drawing definitive conclusions about whether it was a success.
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I think people are excited because Marvel *seems* to have a plan both in place and motion.
 
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There's no contest when it comes to superhero films. Marvel kick DC's arse.

Both in quality AND quantity.
 
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That's probably true, but DC still has the #! super-hero movie and that's Batman Begins. Closely followed by Spidey 2. I think Dark Knight will surpass both of these. Even Iron Man.
 
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Who really cares? Pay your 10.00 plus, go see the movie and enjoy THAT experience (or don't). IF it ties into a bigger tapestry, ok. If not, enjoy the film you're watching (or don't).
 
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He has a huge Marvel Bias.
 
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He has a huge Marvel Bias.
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I have to admit to having a huge DC bias in absolutely every way and that said, Marvel is completely kicking DC's arse in terms of movies in every imaginable way. The interlacing of their movies into a universe is merely the latest way. I also hope that Dark Knight kills off the new Batman movies for awhile. The first of these Batman movies was terrible and slow and this newest one looks like such a horrid misfire that I just hope that Batman comes back completely and totally different in a couple of years. I also need to say that the Spirit looks bloody awful--and this is after Frank Miller swore up and down that he would be faithful to the source material. The only thing that he looks faithful to is retreading the same visual look he employed in Sin City...

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I have to admit to having a huge DC bias in absolutely every way and that said, Marvel is completely kicking DC's arse in terms of movies in every imaginable way. The interlacing of their movies into a universe is merely the latest way. I also hope that Dark Knight kills off the new Batman movies for awhile. The first of these Batman movies was terrible and slow and this newest one looks like such a horrid misfire that I just hope that Batman comes back completely and totally different in a couple of years. I also need to say that the Spirit looks bloody awful--and this is after Frank Miller swore up and down that he would be faithful to the source material. The only thing that he looks faithful to is retreading the same visual look he employed in Sin City...

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Agree on The Spirit
(However, it must be said...DC doesn't own this property, the Eisner estate does, and it's not a Warner Brothers Production)

Couldn't disagree more with Batman Begins...Sorry.
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Old May 19th, 2008   married guy is offline   #16
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Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see DC start to make inroads when it comes to films, but I think with Marvel's set-up right now DC can't compete when it comes to creating a cohesive superhero universe on film.

Avi Arad really did a great job getting the ball rolling.
 
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