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Old November 13th, 2006   Sinyaa is offline   #49
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I think there are still a lot of great stories to tell about Conner - a return being one of them. I would love to see him back, and not just because I am a YJ-generation reader.

I didn't hate Conner's death, but I feel like his story is incomplete. The death makes for a good arc, but I don't think it's a satisfying end to the character's story as a whole.
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Wow. I really don't need to add anymore, because you just said everything I wanted to right there^!
 
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Old November 13th, 2006   TalonTheater is offline   #50
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They all had equal time, except Kory, who was being det up to leave the book.
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I'm thinkin' you need to reread some of this book. :/
Why? This is a comic book why should death be the only constant? Unless the death is essential (Batman's parents, etc), then there shouldn't be any limit to ressurections.
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One could argue that this death is meaningful and essential as well. And death has never, EVER been a constant in comics.
 
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Old November 13th, 2006   Outburstt is offline   #51
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I'm thinkin' you need to reread some of this book. :/


One could argue that this death is meaningful and essential as well. And death has never, EVER been a constant in comics.
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Never? Ever? Are you sure? I mean, I've only been reading comics since I was about 9, back in 91. Wouldn't you know it, that was when Superman fought Doomsday, the first time. I think we all remember what happened there. Seems to me that maybe that was the floodgates cause I can't think of a title that I've read since then where someone hasn't died (and in most cases come back)
 
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Old November 13th, 2006   TalonTheater is offline   #52
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Alright, not "never ever." At least since the 80s.
 
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Old November 13th, 2006   Outburstt is offline   #53
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Oh man, you responded before I could toss in more examples. Darn you!!
 
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Old November 14th, 2006   Nightwing is offline   #54
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So your saying the death of bucky wasn't essential to Cap?
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No I'm not saying that, because I never mentioned Cap, Bucky, or Marvel. But Bucky's death isn't essential to Captain America, being Captain America, like my example of Bruce Wayne's parents being essential to him being Batman. Bucky's death set up something else in the Marvel U, there were no sidekicks, no teenage Next Gen of the older heroes, like DC. But now Marvel has changed that with the Young Avengers, and the whole "Marvel Next", that includes Arana, and X-23.

I'm thinkin' you need to reread some of this book. :/
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I have re-read it a few times, the most recently 2 days ago, and I still stand by my statement.

One could argue that this death is meaningful and essential as well. And death has never, EVER been a constant in comics.
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How was this death meaningful? Which by the way I never said, I said essential, not meaningful.

Well I never said it was a constant, but some fans think it should be. Bruce Wayne's Parents have remained dead, because their death is essential to Bruce Wayne being Batman. Uncle Ben has remained dead (The alternate Universe Ben isn't the same), because his death is essential to Peter Parker being Spider-Man. Conner's death isn't essential to anyone, or anything.
 
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Old November 14th, 2006   DeTroyes is offline   #55
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Conner will be back. We all know it, the writers know it, and probably deep down in their cold hearts the editors do as well. Its only a matter of when.

What I suspect is going on is that DC wants everyone to get comfortable with the post-Conner DCU before springing it on us. Everyone moves on, everyone starts to get over things and get caught up with the here-and-now, maybe start to believe it'll never really happen. Then, when you least expect it, they'll spring it on everyone and create such an uproar that it'll practically guarantee a sell-out. Remember, DC is still a business; its in their best interest to string us along for as long possible.
 
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Old November 14th, 2006   TalonTheater is offline   #56
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I have re-read it a few times, the most recently 2 days ago, and I still stand by my statement.
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Read it again? *shrug*
How was this death meaningful? Which by the way I never said, I said essential, not meaningful.
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His death was meaningful in that he saved the universe. If he hadn't done that, Luthor would've crushed Earth-1 (or was it Earth-2?). It had a classic buildup (spending the day with his girlfriend the day before, he was portrayed as quite the knight during the previous issues and Annual), and overall just felt complete. It was a good death.
Well I never said it was a constant, but some fans think it should be. Bruce Wayne's Parents have remained dead, because their death is essential to Bruce Wayne being Batman. Uncle Ben has remained dead (The alternate Universe Ben isn't the same), because his death is essential to Peter Parker being Spider-Man. Conner's death isn't essential to anyone, or anything.
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Old November 14th, 2006   Nightwing is offline   #57
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Read it again? *shrug*
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I will, because I enjoy those issues, and I will still stand by my statement.

His death was meaningful in that he saved the universe. If he hadn't done that, Luthor would've crushed Earth-1 (or was it Earth-2?). It had a classic buildup (spending the day with his girlfriend the day before, he was portrayed as quite the knight during the previous issues and Annual), and overall just felt complete. It was a good death.
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He could have destroyed the tower, shutting down Alex's plans by using his TTK, or crashing into it and coming out of it alive like everyone else around it did. It doesn't feel complete, it feels like when Superman died, and like someone said earlier, it felt like the first chapter, not an ending.

If you think death should be a constant, then wouldn't you want Superboy to stay dead then?
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I never said that. I said there are certain deaths that should stick. The deaths that should stick are those that are essential, example Bruce Wayne's parent, Dick Grayson's parents, Uncle Ben, Peter Parker's parents, those deaths are essential to the characters. Other then those type of deaths death shouldn't remain a constant.
 
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Old November 14th, 2006   hyper_neko is offline   #58
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I think there are still a lot of great stories to tell about Conner - a return being one of them. I would love to see him back, and not just because I am a YJ-generation reader.

I didn't hate Conner's death, but I feel like his story is incomplete. The death makes for a good arc, but I don't think it's a satisfying end to the character's story as a whole.
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Wow. I really don't need to add anymore, because you just said everything I wanted to right there^!
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That's exactly how I feel too. ^_^

I think he'll come back, but not anytime soon.
 
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Old November 14th, 2006   Adam Jones is offline   #59
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Conner is the only character that I've ever wanted to come back from the dead.
 
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Old November 15th, 2006   Timekeeper is offline   #60
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Agreed. I definitely think if Conner appears in the Teen Titans GO! Comic book it could help him come back.
 
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Old November 15th, 2006   Outburstt is offline   #61
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Agreed. I definitely think if Conner appears in the Teen Titans GO! Comic book it could help him come back.
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Is that planned? I would have thought DiDio wanted to keep Superboy away from any type of print at all. I figured by now it's a secret vendetta.

I'm also back to hoping more so that he's SuperNova. I know there are a bunch of you out there who have a ton of reasons why he won't be, and tha's fine. I don't wanna hear those again, about as much as you want me to go on again why I want SuperNova to be Conner.
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Old November 16th, 2006   david is offline   #62
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He could have destroyed the tower, shutting down Alex's plans by using his TTK.
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Old November 16th, 2006   deejaytee is offline   #63
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im sure he would have been able to do it if he focused more...i mean sbp was there and cassie was in trouble....i mean come on. anyways i just want him back....like now....the main reason why i even liked conner was cuz he was a teen just like me...and guess what? when he does come back in 5, 10, 15, 20 years from now....im not going to care....im a comic book fan and what not....but my true passion was reading how superboy grew and while he grew i grew...it was so kewl like having a comic character that when you read about you just see yourself. also what i want to point out is that how hopeless it feels to have faith in a hero....i mean like not knowing if your fave charcter is gunna do or not....that sucks....its like the only way you can have a sure bet is if you only like the holy three....lord knows DC wont touch them....now im not saying geoff is a bad writer...i love his work....i just dont have faith in heroes anymore....they die like nothing...i almost wish earth-2 would come back
 
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Old November 16th, 2006   Ohoni is offline   #64
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From Infinite Crisis 6:
Superboy - "I can disassemble things by touching them, but... if you're thinking about the tower, it's too big.
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It totally wasn't, he's done bigger, or at the very least he could have sheared off enough of it to make a difference. He could definitely do more damage to the tower with his TTK than he could by ramming through it like a human bullet.
 
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